Thursday, December 8, 2011
FEMA Camps For Real?
This is the banned episode of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory TV show, where he talks about FEMA Camps, government information centers, and a few other things. It was only aired once, before the U.S. government persuaded the TruTV network to take it off the air. It can still be found online, though.
Now, why was it banned? I thought that perhaps it was banned because they embarrassed the Tennessee congressman who is interviewed by Governor Ventura in the show. But yesterday, supposedly it has come out that there are contracts being put out to hire people to run the "FEMA Camps" all over the country.
Interesting.
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That's more than a little creepy.
You know, I am actually trying to debunk this stuff.
I think I can debunk the entire episode in the linked video.
But then stuff like this happens and I don't know any more.
"I am actually trying to debunk this stuff."
Why?
Here's the thing. Does FEMA have a legitmate use for all of the things in the video? Yes. Anyone who looks at what they have been charged to do in regards to emergancy management would come to the conclusion that there is a moral and legal use for all of the items in the video. So far so good, there is a proper use of coffins that has nothing to do with evil plots. There are proper uses for detention centers. There are good reasons for having access to transportation etc. etc. etc. All of this prep work has uses that are within a reasonable scope of use, that has nothing to do with some evil plot.
The problem comes in when you start looking at other issues. Why is there a non-elected board that oversees 10 administrative regions? We are divided into states, each state has the job of taking care of the things needed to maintain law and order as well as a free and civil society. None of admin functions, or the intelligence functions are proper things for the federal government to be involved in as far as it involves citizens of the states.
Res Ipsa
Well, that's what I mean, Res. Is there a legitimate explanation for everything that Ventura and Jones detail in the show?
The girl who was arrested for going to the governor's office? She looks to me to have been a rather persistent protestor. Sure, I probably agree with her politically, but I think her behavior got her listed on a police list and blackballed.
The FEMA camp that Jones and Ventura tried to get into? It's a privately owned detention facility in Texas used to house people being processed by ICE for deportation. There are families there, because believe it or not, the government actually does deport people. Just not enough.
The FEMA camp that the guy tried to get into in California? I don't know.
The plastic coffin liners? There's probably a good reason someone ordered them to be made and purchased. Was it the USG? I don't know. They may not even be "coffin liners". The Nazis didn't mess with coffin liners, they would just line people up by a ditch.
The most interesting thing to me in this show is the congressman's interview. He tried to mock Ventura by implying that believe in FEMA camps is akin to belief in LGMs. But Ventura knew what he was talking about, had the bill number and everything.
The integration centers are also disturbing. Why is the USG gathering all this intelligence on US citizens? What are the going to do with it? Do they have a warrant? (he says jokingly, knowing that they don't have any respect for the 4th amendment)
But then again, all this has been done in the last several years, esp after 9/11. Is it legitimate, or is it nefarious?
I don't know.
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Ramdom thoughts:
Coffins: Explaination #1 We are engaged in what 8 wars? #2 If FEMA ordered them it could simply be for an yet unknown event like Katrina.
Camps under Home Land Security: They could be detention and repateration centers for illegals.
The congressman: He could be telling the truth about FEMA camps, IF the camps serve some other legit function such as ICE. My guess is that the congressman was expecting some softball questions designed to gloss over the issue and thats not what he got.
The girl should have been allowed to file her paperwork like anybody else there was no reason for her treatment, unless she was under a restraining order not to be in the office at all. Not enough information on this one.
Here is where thinking people have an issue and why the tin foil hat crew can make a case:
1. If you have a legal and legit reason for what you're doing, i.e. deporting illegals, come out and say so. That goes for stuff like to coffins. Tell the truth even if its going to be distastefull. Say, we were expecting to have 250,000 dead in the middle east, or we are planning for the clean up if a bio weapon is used against NYC. If you're pressed on why you thought that, again tell the truth. "We have intelligence that leads us to believe that this might happen" and/or "how we know that is classified" is more reasonable than what they've chosen to do.
2. If you can't tell the press/public what you're doing because of a legit reason for keeping it secret, do a better job of hidding it.
CBS had a show back in 07 and 08 called "Jerico". It was pulled for low ratings although the rateings were higher than many other shows that they kept on. The show was about exactly the types of things the FEMA camp types are warning about. How much of this is art imitating life, or at least influencing it, I don't know. Then again the USA is less free, less safe, less educated, less in several other areas than we were 100 years ago.
I can think of no consitutional approved reason for the intergration centers, that is not all ready taken care of by other departments.
Res Ipsa
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